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Javier Sáez Hurtado on Era Exponencial: OpenAI, Anthropic and defence
Javier Sáez Hurtado co-hosts this episode of El podcast de la Era Exponencial with Arnau Ramió, published on 11 March 2026 on the Learning Heroes channel. It runs for 76 minutes.
The episode starts from the opposite decisions of OpenAI and Anthropic on contracts with the US Department of Defense and uses them to talk about values and business: each company’s share of the enterprise market, users moving between assistants, and forecasts of how many jobs will change in the coming years.
It is one of the eight artificial intelligence episodes of the series, recorded while Javier Sáez Hurtado led the IA Heroes programme at Learning Heroes.
Topics
- OpenAI
- Anthropic
- AI and defence
- Enterprise market
- Jobs

| Original title | “OpenAI firmó con el Pentágono. Anthropic dijo no” |
|---|---|
| Part of | El podcast de la Era Exponencial (episode 6 of 8) |
| With | Arnau Ramió |
| Channel | Learning Heroes |
| Published | |
| Length | 76 min |
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